Until last week, sir informed us that he invited Yi Lijing to give us a class. I read Yi Lijing's article according to the recommended reading items opened by Mr. Zeng, and continued reading her book after listening to her lecture. From yesterday to today, although I still have a stack of unfinished textbooks, Yi Lijing's books make me reluctant to put them down.
Yi Li-Jing is as eloquent as his words. I have always felt this way throughout the lecture.
My imaginary female reporter should be like this: capable, kind, easy-going, clear-headed and responsive. Both her temperament and her writing style are naturally bound by the standards of a reporter, neither gorgeous nor ostentatious. Maybe the word "bound" is a bit too much, because it all seems natural. The speech is objective, peaceful and prudent, but it is full of temperature everywhere; Calm mind, adhere to their own rhythm and gas field, although living in irregular rush about; He is like an outsider, keeping a distance from events, but he can keenly grasp the softest part of people's hearts. He is a bystander, but he can be close at hand. Each of her interviews is very long, and most of them have twenty or thirty pages. Why does a big shot have so much time for an exclusive interview with a person? I think there is only one answer, because this interviewer is Yi Lijing. This is definitely not an exaggeration. After reading these interviews, I even marvel that a reporter can talk to the interviewee like an old friend. Later, I heard Yi Lijing talk about her "stupid kung fu" before every interview. "There is no way, just use' Du Niang' (Baidu). Every time I turn from the first page to the last page. " That's why there are those deep questions in the interview. When the interviewee talks about one thing, she will immediately contact what he once said and ask his attitude and thoughts. Of course, only a comprehensive understanding is absolutely not enough. Although Yi Lijing doesn't feel strong, she can control the scene in a gentle way, and her ability to listen and speak is extraordinary. When listening to her lecture, you can be completely attracted by her and brought into the context of her story by her. During the third class 145 minutes, I even felt that I was listening to her for a moment. A reporter in the middle tried to interrupt the question and caused public anger. Everyone shouted "Let Teacher Yi tell stories" below. This kind of situation is absolutely rare in Tsinghua University's class. In fact, she just keeps telling stories. She didn't make any sensational comments, but she told it calmly, calmly and calmly, but I dare say that another person telling the same story might not be so fascinating. Everyone has a desire to express, and everyone is eager to be understood and listened to. Those big-name stars are actually ordinary people, not to mention they are at the center of the scandal. They want to clarify their image and hope that their joys, sorrows or grievances can be understood. Yi Lijing often makes an appointment for two hours, and the result is six or seven hours. I think the reason is that her interview can stimulate the interviewee's desire for expression. Or, to put it another way, she grasped the controversial line well and grasped it very well. She has always adhered to her role as an interview controller, creating a peaceful and comfortable space for interviewees to express themselves as freely as possible. She talked to them in an equal manner. In fact, she is not satisfying readers' curiosity, but asking questions for herself. It seems that she outlined the image of an interviewee before the interview, and the interview process is to constantly repair and improve the details of this painting and supplement its flesh and blood. In the end, what she wants to accomplish is not a glamorous performer in the spotlight, but a rich three-dimensional soul without props and stage makeup. She knows them and is willing to know and understand them. She listened to them, and she made them forget the noise of the outside world and open their hearts to her. She sincerely accepts their trust, and she helps them analyze their hearts and restore their truth. Yi Lijing said that during the interview, she and her interviewee often forgot their identity. This is an interview. Li once kicked off a reporter who aimed the camera at his cleft lip and palate daughter, but in the face of Yi Lijing, he confessed his sadness, pain and struggle before and after his daughter was born, and expressed his love and commitment to his daughter and wife. There is little gossip in Yi Lijing's interview. It doesn't matter to her whether those are true or not. What she cares about is the character's heart, the humanity in Vanity Fair, which is messy, dark and full of hidden rules. Even entertainment news can have power and weight that touches people's hearts. Yi Lijing's full preparation, hard follow-up, careful excavation and careful consideration before and after each interview made me understand the source of this strength and weight. If I hadn't listened to her with my own eyes, I would never have imagined how much effort she had put into these words. For the person she wants to interview, she will pursue it persistently. For every question she wants to ask, she will not give up and try her best to wait for a satisfactory answer. As a semi-journalism student, I understand that although the profession of journalist is inexhaustible and dangerous, it has been criticized and even despised in mainstream discourse. Perhaps this profession is not so glorious for some people, but I am moved by a reporter's responsible attitude towards every interview and his efforts to persevere and never give up. The experience of a reporter harvesting a story through setbacks makes me yearn for it. Maybe there are many unsightly things in this industry, but there are also professional spirits that we respect. Yi Lijing said that once I finished writing an article, "There is a feeling of drunkenness, a bit like drunkenness, but much worse than drunkenness. However, if you don't write once every once in a while, you will miss the words very much. " In fact, I have experienced this feeling of "drunken talk". I think writers will feel similar, but I understand that for us, the most important thing is the constant yearning for words, which is the most fundamental reason for our pain and happiness. The ancients said to read thousands of books and take Wan Li Road. Actually, talking to thousands of people is the same. We can also draw spiritual nourishment from other people's lives. Then, Yi Lijing and his books inspired and encouraged me, which is such rich spiritual nourishment. Southern people weekly/article
For a while, I was particularly reluctant to make an interview outline. I have a headache when I see a blank Word document. I'm tired of pondering this question carefully: is it witty enough, interesting enough, or even profound enough, not too smooth to make people lose interest in the answer, and it's best not to be too sharp to let the other person leave? I went to consult Yi Lijing. Since 2005, her interview has become famous in the media circle. That year, she was ordered to interview Cui Yongyuan from beginning to end. She and Cui talked for seven hours without eating or drinking before they got the classic cover article Patient Cui Yongyuan. It is said that as long as she is given the opportunity to sit down face to face, she can make you extend the expected interview time: from one hour to two or three hours, three hours is precious time for a star, but once, she went with a popular actress for five hours until they took off their shoes and leaned back on the sofa to stretch their muscles. This scene reminds me of a hot kang I have never seen before. -that she just finished an exclusive interview with Andy Lau. "What was the first question you asked him?" I asked. She thought for a moment and replied:
"Did you sleep well last night?" This is obviously not a standard answer, or even an answer, but as long as we watch an interview with Yi Lijing, we will understand that many times, we exaggerate the importance of question design, but ignore the creation of interview atmosphere. It was dry and cold that day, and there was not enough heating in the coffee shop. As soon as she came in, she took the seat facing the door and left the chair facing the wall to the interviewee. "Seal her line of sight! Avoid distractions. " She said sternly. However, at the beginning of the interview, she was radiant, and you could feel her enthusiasm and curiosity, and the surrounding air began to get wet. We don't often have the opportunity to meet endless interviewers, so the interviewer's motivation is particularly important. You must show your concern before the other person will be willing to accept you. In addition to what should be said, I am willing to say more and elaborate. Then you should be able to show your understanding, in Yi Lijing's own words, "Can you go?" This determines the other party's further reaction. Many times, this is not the exchange of knowledge, but the mutual attraction of knowledge. She has a sensitive heart, has experienced many hardships in life and has a deep understanding of human nature, so she can feel the pain and redemption of people who are more experienced than her. Human nature is often as powerful as big words like culture and national conditions, and it seems that everything can be put in. Sometimes I want to remind Yi Lijing of this, but fortunately, human nature has not been abused and stained like the latter two-perhaps the real problem is that we have never examined and really understood human nature. Here, Yi Lijing is better than us because of her natural sensitivity, her psychological accumulation and her observation of religion and the unknown world. However, she gives people a sense of security. Humid air has good internal circulation. On another occasion, I discussed with her whether what an interviewee said in a rage could be published. Some people think that this moment reflects people's real thoughts, but she thinks it's unfair. "You must wait for him to come to his senses." If you read her articles carefully, you will notice her preparation before asking questions-she has fundamental goodwill towards people and believes that everyone has the right to paint their own pictures-which often brings extra rewards to her interviews: her questions have not lost their sharpness (even sharper), but the effect is better. Yi Lijing once said that the highest level of interview is to let both the interviewer and the interviewee know themselves again. In this sense, every time she interviews, she is asking other people's questions and asking herself. Yes, you have to swim through the turbulent life by yourself, but let's take a look at the scenery she showed us on the other side first. Former Southern Weekend reporter and writer/article
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Liu Xiaoqing is one of many people that Yi Lijing wants to visit.
Except for his occasional appearance in film and television dramas, Liu Xiaoqing rarely comes into public view, and many people have forgotten this controversial figure who once received much attention. Finding her and opening her memory is also a way to relive a lost era. I made an appointment with Liu Xiaoqing for more than a year and followed him in Xi 'an for four days. Yi Lijing's tortuous interviews with people were published in the 20 1 1 issue of Southern People Weekly. Liu Xiaoqing: My Life is Magnificent, which opened a door for readers to remember. Those yellowed old photos, ups and downs of life narrative, warm and direct dialogue, let people see Liu Xiaoqing again, see her personal history full of the imprint of the times, and see the prosperity and silence of a lost era again.
After years of news practice, Yi Lijing's cross-border interview with people has been widely concerned. Southern People Weekly, founded in 2004, has been performing its duties for eight years, interviewing 18 people on average every year. They once assembled in Interview with Director China and Interview with Actors in China, and now they are assembled in Open and Investigation. These characters bear their own personal marks, as well as the marks of their different times. Whether you like it or not, these characters can't ignore their public existence as public figures.
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1999165438+10, Yantai shipwreck. This is a shipwreck at the beginning of this century.
Soon after, Yi Lijing went to Yantai to visit the survivors of the shipwreck, and her search trip later appeared in her news reports. This report was published in a cultural weekly newspaper where she worked. This is the earliest report about shipwreck in my personal memory. Yi Lijing's account of the disaster and the photos he took reproduced that moment of sadness and fear. This is the moment when she started her career as a journalist. As a former colleague and friend for many years, I became a witness to her career and professional performance.
In that newspaper, she is very active and involved in politics, economy, culture, entertainment and other fields.
Yi Lijing grew up in a small county located on the Sino-Russian border. She experienced the beauty of mountains and rivers more, where the forest is dense and the lake is clear. In the early 1990s, she came to Beijing and lived a different life. This is a double life, a real life and a life in the news world. She traveled all over the streets of Beijing, not only capturing the instant news that happened every day, but also visiting the AIDS village in Henan alone. In that village where the air was full of suspicious germs, she was with those infected with malignant diseases, listening to their sadness, their hopes and fantasies in sadness, and she brought back the unrecognizable interview tapes mixed with dialects and wrote them down. Yi Lijing walked around the news scene she saw, listening, observing, recording and expressing. 12 years have passed. As a journalist, she has experienced various experiences and her career is becoming more and more mature.
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Patient Cui Yongyuan, published in Southern People Weekly in 2005, was an important visit in Yi Lijing's career.
Later, this long report was regarded by the media as a model of people's reporting.
When Cui Yongyuan filmed Tell the Truth, he was very confident, thinking that he was seventy or eighty years old and still sitting in this studio with silver hair. Around 1999, the TV environment began to change, more and more entertainment programs appeared, and Tell the Truth began to decline. "At first, I thought I could curb this downward trend and let it continue to rise. Later, I found that I couldn't restrain it and was completely desperate. " I don't want to see the project I co-founded continue like this. In 2002, Cui Yongyuan left Tell the Truth. His depression was very serious at that time. To tell the truth after leaving, I was admitted to the hospital, and my illness was so serious that I needed 24-hour escort and even thought about suicide.
Yi Lijing described in detail her observation of the interviewees and started a dialogue between them. Cui Yongyuan, a TV host suffering from depression, was sharp-tongued and sharp-tongued in a seven-hour interview. The topic involved many sensitive issues at that time. "I can't stand telling lies in Tell the Truth", "I always want to be an angry person" and so on. When it comes to vulgarization of TV programs, Cui Yongyuan is full of firepower. This kind of interview shows the openness of discourse and the complexity of the interviewee's experience, knowledge and thoughts. Patient Cui Yongyuan was awarded "Annual Media Tribute Cultural Report" by Southern Weekend in 2005 for the following reasons:
This is a group of reports of cultural figures with almost no defects. It is rare in domestic news reports to go so deep into one's heart and show one's thoughts so sharply. The reporter talked with Cui Yongyuan for nearly seven hours, and really grasped the inner world of the interviewee, and almost accurately restored it. It is worth noting that the report not only has wonderful gimmicks with great communication effects such as "ratings are the root of all evils", but also deeply discusses the conscience and responsibility of intellectuals. The feeling when reading this article is: "read it in one breath" and "cover up the aftertaste"
Because of this, Cui Yongyuan's confusion just reflects some anomalies in our social life, and the significance of the report has been sublimated.
After years of professional experience, Yi Lijing has established the reporting of cultural and entertainment figures as his own direction.
Entertainment circle is her deepest penetration field. What kind of field is this? In an interview, when the actress Christina answered her question "What kind of place do you think the entertainment circle is", she described it like this: "A group of ants illuminated by a magnifying glass were originally small, but they were just magnified by the magnifying glass." This is a special group, exposed to vanity fair, illuminated by spotlights, performing in the world, and also performing grandstanding. This is the general impression of people on the entertainment circle.
To some extent, Yi Lijing rewrote the discourse form of the entertainment circle. She turned many ants into people, and those ants with acting talent into human life. Through her personalized interview, she showed the living conditions of those who were described as ants. Open Yi Lijing's works, and you can see vivid characters in any chapter-they take off their makeup and masks and speak in their true colors. The extension and deepening of everyone's topic is the approach and detection of a person's reality, heart and life modality.
Li's deeply rooted roles are all positive figures, such as He Jiao, but he actually started from the villain-Lin Biao, which is the first protagonist in his acting career.
The drama "September 13th Incident" was arranged for the trial of "smashing the counter-revolutionary clique of Lin Biao and Jiang Qing" at that time. At first, I hoped to have a more mature actor to play Lin Biao. After the downfall of the Gang of Four and the cultural revival, the actors were very busy, so Li was asked to help the troupe play the role of B, and the director was busy looking for a suitable candidate. "Opportunity is rare, be sure to go. I worked hard and entered a state of being possessed. " Li recalled.
The director took him to Maojiawan and the Great Hall of the People to interview and experience life. "Not thin enough, hungry. Every morning at less than 5 o'clock, I learn to walk in Lin Biao's costume in the yard, listen to his voice and post a room full of his photos, so that I can always live with him. " After half a year, the director saw that there was no need to find someone else, just him.
The story goes like this. Under Yi Lijing's persistent insistence, she made an appointment for an interview. With her gentle and firm questions to the interviewees, those life narratives that are brilliant or lonely or smooth or tortuous gradually open.
If typology is used to summarize her visit, I think it is broad, deep and tortuous. This kind of interview broke through the simplicity and dullness of people's reports in China media. Before such interviews and writing appeared, we can say that it was difficult for China artists to have a broad life narrative, or that they could not see the waves of life. What we can see is their typed performance, a performance supported by scripts, and a life whitewashed by corporate propaganda and packaging. We have seen many artists who are pale and thin as individuals after they are separated from the performance situation and script. This situation changed during Yi Lijing's visit.
Examples that can be cited include My Life is Magnificent, Li's I want to live more interestingly because I'm not dead, Li's I'm not a degenerate, and so on.
In 2008, Southern Weekend paid tribute to the annual cultural report: Li: I am not a degenerate, for the following reasons:
In the patient interview, the report urged a star figure who "wants to wander between gentlemen and hooligans" to bring out the truest thoughts, and the real power of human nature flashed in the presentation, which was enough to move ordinary people. This report is far away from all kinds of morbid expressions in entertainment reports, giving stars normal national treatment and safeguarding the healthy professional dignity of cultural reports.
In the fast-developing media era in China, there are too many vulgar entertainment news consumer goods, and the reports of celebrities are full of envy, even contempt, even flattery, and frivolous. The media that can persist in making entertainment reports with a normal heart is especially worthy of respect.
People familiar with the news are well aware that the difficulty of visiting is the deepest anxiety of media practitioners.
The difficulty of interview, dialogue and writing becomes more and more difficult with the improvement of the interviewee's fame and status. In other words, it is more difficult to visit so-called celebrities and stars than ordinary people.
These difficulties can always be solved one by one in the Book of Changes, but before they are solved, they are painstaking efforts at no cost.
In my opinion, this is a terrible work record: in all previous visits, Li made an appointment for two years and interviewed for four days; Liu Xiaoqing made an appointment for more than a year and interviewed for four days; Chen Kaige made an appointment for eight months and interviewed for four hours; Tsui Hark made an appointment for six months and interviewed for four hours. Li interviewed for eight hours, Cui Yongyuan interviewed for seven hours and interviewed for six hours. Sebrina's interview lasted for five months-since we went to Mera refugee camp together, we interviewed no less than eight times, the first time was six hours, and then every time was more than two hours.
Besides making an appointment, it is also difficult to talk. In a given limited time, we should do a topic, do it, have mutual intersection and echo, and have depth and expansion. These problems that make media people anxious will be dealt with in the Book of Changes. I think this is one of the most important professional abilities.
Zhao Benshan: Last Spring Festival Evening, I was unhappy because of the cover article published by Southern People Weekly.
Before this article was published, it seems that there were few in-depth reports about Zhao Benshan.
Zhao Benshan was rarely interviewed by the media at that time. The acting star, known as the king of sketches, kept his distance from the media.
As a performer who regularly appeared on the stage of the Spring Festival Evening from 65438 to 0980, Zhao Benshan has become a symbol. The interview and analysis of him is also an analysis of the Spring Festival Evening culture and popular culture. For dating, patience is the greatest weapon.
The difficulty of visiting Zhao Benshan is that he seldom gives interviews. After visiting Zhao Benshan's sketch partner Fan Wei and Fan Wei's introduction, Yi Lijing got the opportunity to visit Zhao Benshan. When I met Zhao Benshan, he was filming Ma Dashuai III. It was winter, and she followed the crew around Tieling, Kaiyuan and Jinzhou for half a month. In this process, "except for greeting each other on the first day, we didn't talk in the middle of the day." He is observing whether you are trustworthy. " Yi Lijing said in reviewing this interview experience.
When interviewing Zhao Benshan, Yi Lijing had already finished the report of patient Cui Yongyuan, and when she was leaving the crew, she took the magazine to Zhao Benshan. He sat in front of the monitor, looked at the 14 page, 20,000-word article page by page, and said, "It's just a fight. How can you live like this?" I have to persuade him to find a way to make him happy and depressed. "
In the same year, the essay Xiao Cui Shishuo appeared in CCTV Spring Festival Evening, co-authored by Zhao Benshan, Song Dandan and Cui Yongyuan. When Song Dandan appeared, the first thing he said to Cui Yongyuan was, "Xiao Cui, I haven't seen you for six years. I heard that you are depressed? "
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I think Yi Lijing's visit is also to establish her personalized journalistic professional ethics.
That is, to explore the truth of the world and explore the imprint of the times; Show the magnificence of life and the richness of human nature.
Journalists are usually considered sharp and mean.
It is normal for journalists to fight bravely.
As far as professional status is concerned, Yi Lijing is a rare and gentle person.
Her visit is rarely provocative or malicious. She listened and asked questions. Her topic is like a wide river.
Xu Fan deeply felt the relationship between artists and the media. When she was interviewed by Yi Lijing, she had the following conversation.
"You are very cautious in the interview. Has the media ever hurt you? "
"Hurt. There are paparazzi in Hong Kong, and he has a degree. But on the mainland, this kind of thing sometimes goes too far. The mainland media sometimes have vicious language and arbitrarily cut other people's language and design lines, taking it for granted. " Feeling disrespected, conflicts between artists and the media have become commonplace.
Sorry, Volkswagen. As a result, the reputation of both professional fields has been ruined. Entertainment and media circles.
In the media world, Yi Lijing is an anomaly. Her difference lies in patience and kindness.
Years of entertainment circle infiltration and years of artist visits have made her master too many secrets. Those who opened their hearts because of the magnetism of the discourse field told all the stories of their most secret life experiences. But as long as she agrees what should not be made public, she will keep her mouth shut. Honesty and trustworthiness are her personal principles. Yi Lijing has been carrying out her personal work style for many years, and her interview scene is more like a stage. People who come out of various life realms appear in such interview scenes, and in her questioning and investigation, they open the secret treasure of their own life experiences.
Such interviews, interviews and interviews will win dignity.