The spinach industry in Southeast Asia is mainly distributed in the Philippines and Cambodia. People often ask which of these two countries is better? As far as treatment is concerned, I can only say that companies with good treatment are everywhere, and companies with poor treatment are everywhere. It depends on the treatment of the company you go to. Compare the treatment of the two companies and you will know the level. Then consider my words from the perspective of security. This issue is a matter of different opinions, so I won't comment here.
Compared with Cambodia, the Philippine society is relatively stable. (Note, I just said relatively stable. The public security in these two countries is certainly not comparable to that in China. ) There are also many people from China. If you are thinking about starting a business in the future, I still recommend coming to the Philippines, because we all know that there are many people who can do business naturally, such as Chinese restaurants, travel agencies and China supermarkets in Manila, which are based on millions of China people living here.
Someone asked if it is safe to make spinach industry in the Philippines. First of all, it should be said that the spinach industry in the Philippines is legal, but it is illegal for China people to gamble online, which violates the laws of China (in the criminal law, it is illegal for China citizens to pull China citizens to gamble, so as a promotion, don't pull their friends to play on the platform, so I met an SB who asked friends to play, and I was arrested when I returned to China. A friend must have reported it. This is a gamble. Generally, companies have promotional resources, so it is enough to tap their own resources. However, there is a problem. Spinach companies are all located overseas, and JF in China has no law enforcement power in other countries, so don't listen to some rumors that JF in China will arrest people wherever they go, unless JF in China applies to the Philippine government for joint law enforcement, but these spinach companies have created many tax benefits for them in the Philippines. They won't let China JC touch their cash cow. Sometimes China will use some advantages to get the Philippine government to cooperate with them in joint law enforcement. At this time, a group of black companies will be arrested. These companies have no licenses, do not apply for work visas, and do not provide much benefit to the Philippines. At this time they will be regarded as cannon fodder.
Of course, there are also some unlicensed companies working in the Philippines, because in the Philippines, they are basically not bosses in Taiwan Province Province, but bosses in Fujian. There are few bosses in other places. Seeing that everyone has made money, many people want to make money, but what should I do without a license? Then work in some villas or communities and do it secretly. So for the sake of safety, if the work place is in a villa or community, don't go.
It is worth reminding that many people who want to come to the Philippines recently told me that the companies they interviewed need them to apply for bank cards, U shields, Alipay and so on. Such a company advises everyone not to go. Although the salary is high, do you still want to go back to China? People who come to work in the Philippines protect their privacy very well. Don't pay attention to safety and privacy for money.
There are always people who talk about the news of various riots in the Philippines. I can only say that the security here is relative. No boss will open a company in a war zone, and employees are not here to fight. The boss also runs a company to make money. When something happens to an employee, the boss loses. How does the boss make money? I have to admit that there are many unsafe places in the Philippines, but the places where you work and live are safe. You should also pay attention to safety at ordinary times. Know the details, Penguin (180), then (997), and finally (894).
So, how should Xiaobai choose a company? First of all, he must choose a legal and reliable company. I found that many job seekers asked to see the company license plate when consulting HR. Job seekers basically don't know English, so you can't read an English license plate. Besides, even if the license plate in the photo is real, how do you know that this license plate belongs to this company? I suggest that you try to choose the office building company in the city. Without any strength, I dare not open a company in an office building in Manila. If you are the boss and have a license, you won't go to the resort to rent a villa to start a company. After all, there is too much difference between renting a villa and renting an office building. I'm not saying it must be the black company of the resort, just comparing. ) and you can't even go to a black company, it depends on how much the boss gives you. If there is too much money, you can consider it, because even if the immigration office finds that there is no work permit, you can take it out as long as the boss is willing to spend money on things. It definitely doesn't mean that you have to be repatriated if you are caught. Here, a concept is popularized for newcomers. Immigration inspection companies do not mean arresting people. It is normal for relevant departments to investigate companies, and then being arrested does not mean being repatriated. Being repatriated does not mean going back to prison.
In addition to choosing the legitimacy of the company, the second is to look at the treatment. I have seen many job seekers ask how your company treats you as soon as they come up. What I want to say is that no company can simply say that the treatment is good or bad. All treatment should be combined with recruitment requirements. Let me make an analogy. Want to recruit customer service, the probation period is 8000 to 1 10,000, 8 hours and 4 days off, including food and accommodation. If you simply look at the treatment of this company, there will definitely be newcomers who will say how good the treatment is, but if I tell you that the recruitment requirement of the company is to graduate from junior college, English communication is no problem, and I have worked as a customer service in the Philippines 1 year. Only those who have no problem in English communication apply for a translator with a monthly salary of10.5 million. Looking back at this time, do you still think this treatment is as good as you thought? This is why I see that many companies work well, but it is difficult to recruit people, because there are very few qualified people. Or some companies are bad for you at first sight, so why can you recruit people? People who don't go are stupid. It is because of personal conditions that going to other companies does not meet the requirements and there is no choice. For example, a 35-year-old boy can only do customer service if he can't do promotion, so there are not many companies that he chooses to do customer service for those companies with poor treatment, and it is basically certain that even if the company invites him to be a guest, he may become a promotion. The company told him that the customer service was full, and you were late, so you had to promote it. There are many such things, don't be surprised. Why can a liar fool people is that he can satisfy you with whatever you want, and then he finds it different. Many companies here are not in the same area in terms of personnel and promotion. For example, some companies are competing, but the personnel are in Alabang. When you come to the Philippines, you can hardly see your recruiters, or even if you know WeChat, you don't know who recruited you. In addition, there is personnel pressure. When you can't recruit people, you can only fool one, so you must choose the right position according to your own conditions.
The premise of choosing a company is that you can go. First of all, you should make sure that your basic personal situation meets the recruitment requirements of this company, and then you can see the quality of treatment. There are many well-paid jobs and companies, and it is equal to 0 if you can't go. I have seen many job seekers' work orders reversed. As soon as I came up, I started asking about the company's treatment, air tickets, visas, work visas, dormitory environment and so on. After asking for an hour or two, they submitted their resumes and said I wanted an interview. The personnel looked at it and said sorry. As long as the customer service is after 90, your age does not meet the recruitment requirements (or other conditions do not meet, for example, the company will limit the proportion of people in the same place to too many, which is not geographical discrimination. But the same company can't have too many people in one place, otherwise it's not convenient to manage. You can imagine a platform with 80 people in Shandong 100, which will bring trouble to management. Then some job seekers will scold HR and say why you didn't say it earlier and waste his time. HR is also very wronged. How do I know how old you are? How do I know where you are from? I can tell how old you are by looking at your VX head. Where are you from? I can't tell fortune, so I want you to give me your resume in advance. You said you didn't have to worry. You need to know before you send it. In fact, many HR are newcomers themselves and just started recruiting. You can pay more attention to the recruitment of companies with good treatment. The recruitment brochure issued by the group will be written to the end. Please send your resume to someone's email when applying for a job. I'll contact you after the first trial, but I can't answer in private. Many people say that the HR of big companies and high-paying companies is too cold to talk to them. In fact, if you were them, you wouldn't reply, not because of the cold, but because you were too busy. When you receive dozens or hundreds of job resumes every day, and you only recruit three or five people, do you still have the leisure to talk privately with those who don't even have resumes? Opportunities are for those who are prepared.
Then there is the comparison and screening of company treatment. I found that many job seekers don't compare the treatment of companies themselves. For example, in some companies, the salary for probation period is 5,000 yuan, the probation period for three months is 1 10,000 yuan, and the other probation period is 6,000 yuan. After a three-month probation period, 500 yuan will be added every month, so one year is 12 months. You only need to add 12 times a month with the calculator in the most stupid way, and you will know which one it is. Then, it should be noted that in the case of the same 1 10,000 cap, the performance of 7000+3000
Another situation is that some job seekers want to rent a house and then have two companies. The first company paid 60,000 p+1 10,000 p for the house, and the other company paid 50,000 p+10.5 million p for the house. Then some job seekers said that the rent of the second house was high, and my partner and I needed 25,000 P to rent a house. The first house didn't give two people 20 thousand. I'm going to the second house ... you may think it's funny, but I tell you, this kind of thing happens to me from time to time. Some companies have high wages and low subsidies, while others have low wages and high subsidies. Choosing this depends on your actual needs. Just a sentence. Another point is to remind everyone that we should not only look at the amount of money, but also look at the location of the company and the surrounding rental prices. Maccati and Passy are both 20 square meters with one bedroom and one living room. The cheap place is11200p, and the expensive place is 25,600 p, which is normal, so it depends on the rent price around the company. When two people rent a room, the company basically pays the rent. For example, the rent around the company is 20 thousand p per month. Finally, it is not recommended for newcomers to rent a house as soon as they arrive. First, it will be very troublesome to rent a house every month if your English is not good. Second, the rent of renting a house here is basically 2 to 2, and the contract is one year. I just came to work and haven't settled down yet. If you have to leave your job because the job is not suitable, the house will be a big trouble.
There is also the issue of work visa deposit. Many people ask the company not to press the visa deposit as soon as they come up, but is it really that important? Let me give you an example. For example, if a company becomes a full-time employee with 9,000 yuan, it needs to pay a work deposit of 1000 yuan, and another company becomes a full-time employee with 8,000 yuan, without paying a work deposit. So, do you think it makes sense not to pay wages? Therefore, the premise of everything is that the total salary remains unchanged, and then the deposit can be signed without pressure. I can tell you that the two benefits I mentioned earlier are actually a company. At the beginning, the salary set by the boss was 9000 to 1000, which made many people feel that they needed to sign a deposit for their work. Later, the personnel gave an opinion and directly said that it would cost 8000. Sure enough, it is much better to recruit people. The trick of recruiting people is not to sign the work deposit ... and then the boss saves money (9000 yuan per month)
This is a supplement to the work visa. Many people think it's good to apply for a 9G work visa. Why is it safe? In fact, a 9G work visa is really good, but it usually takes two years. If you don't work for two years and want to leave, you need to pay for this 9G work visa, which leads to high compensation, so sometimes you don't think a 9G work visa is good. As long as you stay illegally, any visa will be fine. So to be clear, everyone is looking for a job. There are still many companies that have not applied for 9G, which is not the point. Don't worry too much about this, just have a license.
99% of the companies here have no names. You have to have a license to register your name. Thousands of companies only have dozens of licenses, and most of them are affiliated with a large group, but this does not affect the company's security. It is completely legal in law. Some companies will give themselves a name to distinguish, but this name is definitely not a registered license, and it is meaningless, or it is the name of their own platform website rather than the company name. In a word, these are not real companies. There are hundreds of branches under a group here, and these branches only rent the group's license. The specific treatment and management system of this company are formulated by the company boss himself, and the group will not interfere. Therefore, if you think that a branch under the group is poorly treated, you can only say that this company is a pit, and you can't say that the group is a pit for this reason. Under any group, there are companies with good treatment and companies with poor treatment.
Generally, the job search process is to get a good passport first and try to get a good passport before the interview. If you are in a hurry to recruit people for some positions, having a passport is a priority, because sometimes jobs are reserved for job seekers, but after waiting for half a month, passport holders will not come again. Then make a resume. Why do you want to do a resume? As I wrote before, it can not only save everyone's time, but also ensure that you can find a good treatment. Many people applied and asked him to do a resume. He hates trouble, saying that some companies don't need to read resumes, so he finally goes to the company they want as long as someone comes to you. Do you think this company can pay well? The final result is that this person has worked in the company for ten and a half months and found that other companies have better treatment than himself. Make sure the company's salary is acceptable, and then you can make an appointment for an interview. Computer video interview will test typing speed. If you can type, let's communicate with each other and see your thinking ability, reaction ability, work attitude and so on. I can remind you that the most important thing in an interview is to look at the attitude of job hunting. Many people think that this job is typing. Who can't do it? In the interview, none of the job seekers had the proper attitude and were eventually eliminated.
You have to apply for a visa after the interview. There are two ways to apply for a tourist visa when you first come. One is that job seekers apply for reimbursement after they come to the company, and the other is that the company directly handles it. The processing time is 2-3 working days, that is, 5 working days. After the visa is ok, you have to book a plane ticket and leave. The same is true for air tickets and visas, which are also divided into these two types. Generally, companies book airline tickets directly to employees, unless a better-paid company will require employees to apply for reimbursement after joining the company. The reason is that people often don't come for personal reasons, and future generations disappear, causing losses to the company. Let's despise these people here. If you really can't come, you can contact the company to settle the visa and refund the fee. Not much money, only 1800 yuan. Is your integrity really only worth this money? Know the details, Penguin (180), then (997), and finally (894).
After joining the company, some companies will apply for SWP, that is, temporary work permits, while others will choose to renew their tourist visas. After they become full-time employees, they will apply for work visas in a unified manner. Many people who work here tell them that they have already applied for a work visa, but they still have a tourist visa when they return to China after half a year's work. That's because it usually takes about 2-3 months, and sometimes it may take 3-4 months to become a full-time employee. I'm just saying that it may not be possible, but I don't rule out that some companies really don't have work visas.
Holding your passport is very common in this industry. You don't need to worry too much. Going to work normally and resigning normally will not be prevented from leaving. It is impossible to restrict your personal freedom. You can go out to deal with your own affairs after work. As long as the work is not delayed, the company will not ask for it. Few companies in the Philippines restrict going out after work. On the Internet, I saw people say that they refused to give passports, and customers often asked me that these people were too one-sided, because we were in the spinach industry. A year ago, many companies didn't say that they used to be engaged in the spinach industry, but the intermediary didn't tell me what to do because they were afraid that employees knew spinach didn't want to go. As a result, some employees can't accept coming to work. They think it's illegal and can't do it. They think the agent lied to them. So I asked to come back. I really need a passport when I come back. As our spinach company, visas and air tickets are paid by the company. Since you want to go back, that's good. Give us the money. We'll give you a passport and take you to the airport. At this time, employees feel cheated even more, because the intermediary said it was an air ticket visa when paying the money. Why do you want me to pay when you go back? But in the end, there is definitely no way, or you have to pay for it yourself. It is impossible for this employee to travel to the Philippines for free, so now when we interview employees, there will be a question that we have to ask. Do you know what industry we are? Generally, we will simply tell him about this industry, in case it is unacceptable when we come over, so there is no matter of pressing your passport. Besides, even if you are really worried about your passport being crushed, we still have an embassy in the Philippines, so you can ask the embassy for help. The embassy can reissue your passport. Because there are many employees in the company, passports are also very important documents, and the company also has special personnel to handle visa procedures for employees to hold. What should I do if they drop me one day? This is also a double protection. The company has its own interests and applicability considerations.
Remind everyone that going abroad has costs and needs to be cautious. Since you choose to work abroad, I believe that everyone's living standard is not very good, so you should be prepared before going abroad and don't go back for three or five days after you come out. Although the company will pay for air tickets and visa clearance, you will resign in a few days, and this money needs to be returned to the company.
Let me tell you about the rules of the company here. The most important thing is not to gamble. The company forbids employees to gamble, because after losing a lot of money in gambling, some people start to take risks and want to take the company's money. I have met many such people, both successful and unsuccessful. After those who succeeded in stealing the company's money returned to China, most of the money was lost in gambling, and few people could save it to buy a house or a car. Not to mention those who failed, and those who lost their lives were not without. (This is also the reason why the company will suppress passports, fearing that employees will take the company's money and run away. )
I'll talk to those friends who want to do personnel recruitment or just do personnel recruitment. To put it bluntly, the personnel position is promotion. (I said that recruiters are not administrative personnel, and administrative personnel need to know English. The content of personnel work that can't speak English is mainly recruitment. ) There is also great pressure and mobility. Even some companies have a dozen or twenty employees, many of whom are newcomers, and there is no way to continue to resign. Give some advice to those friends who want to do personnel work. When you apply for a job, the first thing you should look at is not the personnel treatment, but the position you are recruiting as the personnel treatment. For example, personnel work needs to recruit customer service, deposit and withdraw money, and promote these positions. So as long as these positions in the company are well paid, it will be easy for you to recruit as a personnel, and more people will be recruited. Your salary can't be bad (the salary of personnel can be discussed with the company).
People basically have tasks, some are five tasks a month, some are 10. Many people say that looking for a personnel job will definitely go to five tasks with the same salary 1 10,000, and it is easy to complete fewer tasks. I'm telling you, it's not true It depends on the position you are recruiting in the company. If the salary is good, it is likely that the task of 10 people will be easier to complete than that of five people. Then the working hours of the personnel are not important. Many job seekers require 8 hours and 9 hours to do personnel work. You do personnel work, not customer service. After work, you still need to sit in front of the computer and stare at your mobile phone. You can't ask for work. You told people that you got off work at 7 o'clock and you still need to reply to the job seeker. There is little difference between getting off work before going to bed and not getting off work, and the same is true when you are on vacation. I didn't do the recruitment until I personally worked in other positions, so I know a little about each position. If you want to be a competent person, you should at least look at the treatment and requirements of this company, and you will know whether you can recruit people. I also welcome friends who do personnel to make friends with me or VX, exchange work experience and make progress together.
Many job seekers ask me whether to do promotion, customer service or promotion. I can only say that if you don't do it yourself, no one will ever know what you can do. The advantage of customer service lies in stability, and the advantage of promotion lies in infinite possibilities. I think you can have a try. If you can't do it, just change your customer service job in a few months. The loss is not much, but once the promotion is successful, you can get a much higher salary than customer service. I think it is worthwhile to exchange this insignificant price for a future possibility. Suggestions are for reference only, or do you need job seekers to choose according to their own situation.
Many job seekers are worried before going abroad, but it is unnecessary. I remember when I first went abroad, I was forced by life, so I was penniless. At that time, I was single-minded and thought that even if I died, I would die here. I often feel that people sometimes have no choice but to be lucky. Without choice, I have more courage to go forward. Coming out is just a job. If you don't feel comfortable doing it, you can buy a plane ticket and go back to China after a month at most. There is nothing in this world that I have experienced myself. Others say that no matter how much, it is just a pony crossing the river.
On the issue of customs protection
A job seeker asked me whether I should pick up this customs clearance form at the boarding gate or at the customs gate.
There have been such deceptive customs clearance before. They said it was for people coming to the Philippines, but there was no guarantee. You are allowed to go through customs. He is waiting for you outside the customs. When you come out, he will come up and ask you for customs clearance fees. If you are repatriated, he disappears.
So someone came up with a way for customs officers to enter the customs, that is, to pick up people at the boarding gate. It must matter if you can get in. It's really customs clearance.
In fact, this method is only suitable for people who find their own customs clearance, and it makes no sense for those people whose companies provide you with air tickets and visas. If you think so, the company will definitely find a reliable customs clearance that you can't get in or can't get in, and the company will definitely not cooperate once for a long time. We must have worked together many times before.
Now, the company generally doesn't pick you up. If you are brought into the customs, he will come to you, and then he will not appear. Then the company will usually send a driver to pick you up, and someone in the company will send a car to pick you up and take you to the company.
In other words, if the company pays you to protect your customs, you don't have to worry about where you were picked up.
There is also the issue of gambling license.
There is no legal difference between the license you applied for and the license you affiliated, so don't think it is a black company as soon as you hear the license you affiliated. A black company refers to a company that has no license and does not rely on other people's licenses.
Many job seekers are worried that after working in the company for a month or two, the company will take the initiative to dismiss him. Let me analyze it for you.
Spinach, even if you are a customer service, it is impossible to work immediately after you start working and bring benefits to the company. When you start working in the company, you will be paid 5000-6000 yuan during the probation period, and you will have to find someone to take you. You resigned after working for a month, because you didn't bring any benefits to the company, so the money was taken out in vain, and the company only asked you to bear your air ticket.
Therefore, if employees leave for a month or two, the company will definitely lose the most, so it is impossible for the company to fire people for no reason.
Many job seekers ask HR to send them photos of the company's work and dormitory.
I really don't need to introduce this. First of all, if the working environment is in an office building, all kinds of offices are the same. There is no such shabby office building as you can't accept. I often say that 90% of people who can do this job abroad have worse working conditions in China than here.
Then the dormitory environment, the company dormitory here in Manila, is that the company rents some apartment buildings nearby, which will definitely be close to the company and walk for 5- 10 minutes. If it's a little far, the company will send a car to pick it up after work, so don't worry about safety. Then, to be honest, renting a house here is not cheap. The rent of a house with two bedrooms, one living room and more than 80 square meters is more than 10,000 RMB a month, and as I said earlier, renting a house requires at least 2 yuan, so the company can't say that it costs 400,000 to 500,000 yuan to rent a dozen dormitories and wait for people to come in. Generally, a group of people are arranged to join the company next week and rent dormitories this week. So when you interview, HR is not sure which dormitory you live in, but you can send some photos of the dormitory where other employees have lived, but this can only be roughly the same, not exactly the same. Sometimes, you will encounter that situation. When he came, he lived in two rooms and one living room, and then called HR a liar ... the photos don't match the reality ... so I'm really cautious about sending photos now, even if I do, I have to tell them.
In short, the vast number of job seekers, you apply, you believe what others say. If you are skeptical, you don't need to talk about it any more. Like many people who add me, let me send photos, make a gesture and record a small video to prove that I am in the Philippines. It's totally unnecessary, brother. If you believe me, you don't need to say too much. Even if you don't believe me, I will tell you all the time that you think I am fooling you and brainwashing you.
So there is no need for someone to send company photos and license plates. To tell the truth, if HR really lies to you, it will send you photos. Can you tell the truth? Can you understand English by sending you a photo of the license plate? Even if you can see that the license plate is real, how do you know that the license plate in the photo belongs to this company?
Many people posted that Xiaobai job seekers should not be deceived by polishing their eyes. Then you should tell me in detail what to do so as not to be cheated. Just say be careful, polish your eyes and I'll get drunk ... hahaha.
To sum up, the company name is not important, there is no need to ask.
If you want to investigate a company, the most effective way is to ask the company's address, which building, floor and district in Manila. This is much more reliable than the company name.
The following are precautions:
Men over 30, don't even think about it. If you are in a sensitive area, don't even think about it. Don't say that you are serious, don't say that you look young, and don't say that the information on your ID card is wrong. Being a man is also a part-time job, and recruiting people according to the company's requirements. There are recruitment tasks every month. If you can afford it, you will definitely want it. If you insist on looking for such a job, you are likely to be cheated, which is what we often say, don't blame Fei keng, because you don't know it yourself. Can only be promoted. Know the details, Penguin (180), then (997), and finally (894).
If you have been looking for an easy job, such as doing 9 hours of promotion and having a holiday on Monday, then I will tell you that it is not easy. Generally, such companies will not provide resources, so it is more difficult to carry out business. For some people with low academic qualifications and poor learning ability, it is simply a nightmare and it is difficult to do well. The boss of the company that provides resources spends a lot of money on it. If you have more rest, you can't make full use of this resource. Therefore, the company that provides resources can't give you too many holidays in a month. Can work for two days at most, and the working time is at least 10 hour. Many of them are long and have to work overtime. Typing is tiring. I hope you can adopt it!