City people support the views of rural people.
Sina Weibo netizen: bbjmmj point of view
The most shameful thing I have ever heard is that rural people feed urban people. There are a lot of cultivated land around the city for planting crops, and the city has been self-sufficient since ancient times. Until the founding of the People's Republic of China, the assets of the city people were nationalized, and the land was taken away and distributed to farmers, so the city people had to eat the rice of the rural people. Now the demolition, rural people get compensation, top the city people's wages for a lifetime, while the city people are burdened with mortgages to support the rural people who get something for nothing. Is there anything more shameful than this?
Zhihu netizen: Chen Feng's point of view
People in our city don't print money. Who will pay for your grandson's tuition?
We workers don't make hoes. Who will make tools for you farmers! Don't you all have to starve?
We workers don't make fertilizer. Whoever irrigates your farmers' crops will starve to death!
Anonymous users in Zhihu:
1, farmers don't farm for city dwellers for free. Since it's business, what's there to say? What seeds, fertilizers and pesticides do you use for farming? No one else said anything. If the city people don't provide xx yy zz, you farmers can't even plant fields.
2. At present, the main commodity grain supply comes from those producing areas, many of which are large state-owned enterprises and have little to do with individual farmers. However, without farmers, it is really difficult for city people to grow vegetables.
The price of domestic food is higher than that of foreign food. If farmers really stop farming, they don't have to worry about subsidies. Maybe the price of food in the city will come down. As for starvation, it is hard to say that it is impossible in the short term, and it cannot be said that it is dead in the long run.
Zhihu netizen: saszhsuzh
Without a blacksmith, who will hoe you?
Without workers, who will build agricultural machinery for you?
Without scientific researchers, who will improve your seeds and get fertilizer?
How can you sell your products without businessmen?
Without officials, who will give you subsidies?
Zhihu netizen: Rothbard D.
It's not like city people don't pay for food. It seems that they want your food for nothing. You are not the only person in the world who has food here. You grow food in exchange for products and services (clothes, electronic products, etc. ) provided by city people.
Zhihu netizen: Yu's point of view
As a city resident, I used to think this statement was impeccable. It was not until I read a book written by an economics teacher that I was shocked-the development of industry made the importance of "farmers" decline in agriculture, and today's "farmers" are only a part of agriculture.
Today's agriculture relies heavily on technology. Water conservancy, chemical fertilizer, pesticide, agricultural machinery, cold-resistant technology (such as greenhouse), research and development and cultivation of excellent seeds, research and development and cultivation of excellent varieties, upgrading of feed and so on. The role of "farmers" in grain production is getting smaller and smaller, while the role of "science and technology" in grain production is getting bigger and bigger.
The focus of modern science and technology is still the city. Most modern universities and scientific research institutions were born in cities. Most scientific and technological talents are trained here.
Besides, the food eaten by city dwellers is really planted by farmers, but many things necessary for farmers' lives are really developed and produced by city dwellers. Farmers and urban people are both laborers, and they should be in a relationship of mutual need and cooperation, not a relationship in which one considers himself a benefactor.
In the industrial age, if farmers still think that "if farmers don't farm, who will feed the city people", then farmers exaggerate their importance.
Zhihu netizen: Li
We really don't need farmers. What China needs is agricultural skilled workers. So, hand over the land to the company for operation! ! Farmers in the land, not only wasted land, but also wasted farmers' labor! !
Netizen in Zhihu: Ling calls the beast.
First of all, it is impossible for farmers not to farm. Don't farmers eat it themselves? Secondly, even assuming that farmers only grow enough food for themselves, where can farmers get income to meet their consumption needs? You're not really naive enough to think that the state will give you a package of medical care and education, are you? Therefore, if farmers in China don't farm, the consequence is that employees in the secondary and tertiary industries can only buy relatively expensive foreign food (rice, potatoes, other miscellaneous grains, etc.). ), the cost of living will also be pushed up. The collateral effect is to force more capable people to emigrate overseas. The farmers in China will be completely reduced to a group of people with the most useless future in the world, and they will never turn over.
The view that rural people feed urban people
Sina Weibo Netizen: Pony Crossing the River SNS
No matter how to improve and satisfy adequate food at any time, it will always be a priority for human survival 1. Food security and food self-sufficiency are national security, and the prosperity of urban development depends on the input of external material energy. Urban development can never be separated from rural farmers, and urban people rely on rural people to feed.
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Without migrant workers, there would be no beautiful cities, no rural people and no urban people. All rural people feed urban people and provide food. ...
Sina Weibo user: Spellgood
I hope that one day, the words "city people" and "rural people" will disappear from our language. Farmers contribute the most and earn the least; Suffering is the heaviest and grievances are the deepest. Farmers grow food to feed the whole country, but they have always been regarded as second-class citizens. Farmers are welded to the ground by hukou, and when they enter the city, they become vagrants and suspicious elements. But when the famine came, farmers were the first to starve to death. This country owes farmers the most.
Some experts say: it is farmers who farm to feed the city people. That's right, logical thinking is not chaotic at all. Think about it carefully, from the president to the emperor to the civilian beggar; Everyone can't live without food, everyone is working hard, and the ultimate goal is to have something to eat, so as to maintain the continuation of life!
Of course, many city people say that they are also very hard and under great pressure every day, but how many people are willing to exchange their wages in the city for jobs? I just don't want to, but now the discrimination against farmers in the city has never decreased. In the past, farmers had to pay public grain in order to feed the city people. Although public grain is no longer distributed, food prices have never risen, and farmers have given up their own interests to feed the city people. Otherwise, people in cities will be the biggest victims of rising food prices.
Of course, the state has its own national plan, and only hopes that the state can pay attention to the old-age security of farmers and not let the old people who pay public grain feel chilling. What do you think of this?
Other views:
Viewpoint 1: Why do urban people depend on rural people to feed?
To answer this question, we need to discuss what is feeding? I understand that raising is actually material supply, and living means that people want to live. In addition to breathing, the most basic need is to eat, so that people can live a normal life.
It can be seen that industrial products produced by urban people are edible only after people are alive, but agricultural products produced by rural people, such as grain, vegetables and fruits, are edible. Usually people say that urban people depend on the countryside to feed, which means the basic needs of the people to eat.
Everything should be treated with materialist dialectics that divides into two. With the current population growth, it is impossible to feed such a fat urban population by relying only on the ancient agricultural production methods and producing two or three hundred kilograms of grain per mu. We can only rely on those urban people who do not rely on agricultural production and those chemical fertilizer agricultural technologies and machinery to increase food production and feed the people.
Therefore, it is concluded that both urban people and rural people are struggling for the survival of the people. At present, urban people can't live without rural people, and rural people can't live without the happy life of urban people. Therefore, please don't separate urban people from rural people because they can't live without each other.
Viewpoint 2:
Urban people, like rural people, are all workers, creating wealth for society, but the wealth created is different, one is agricultural products and the other is industrial products, so it should be said that there is no question of who feeds whom in rural areas and cities. This is a ...
Secondly, labor itself is divided into mental labor and manual labor, which is different from the division of labor, so the benefits (achievements) produced are large and small, resulting in wealth and strength, and there is no question of who feeds whom!
Third, mental workers generally lead manual workers, that is to say, mental workers have the right to get the surplus value of labor first, and there are cases of exploiting the surplus value of manual workers, but there is no question of who supports whom.
Fourth, to sum up, rural people's agricultural products are old products for thousands of years. This old product is the old price, its price is unreasonable, and the pricing power is not in the hands of farmers, so farmers are poor. Industrial products are new products, and urban people hold the pricing power of industrial products, so the price is higher than that of agricultural products, and urban talents who produce industrial products will have more money than rural people.
Generally speaking, there is no problem between urban people and rural people who support whom.
Viewpoint 3:
Every legitimate occupation has its necessity of existence, and so do farmers. Everyone's choice of a career is restricted by various factors such as himself, family and society. However, people must have a * * * when choosing a career: like it as much as possible and earn considerable income. Of course, you can still get high income by doing what you like, and only a few people can do it. For most people, choosing a career has little to do with preferences. Any job, there are joys and sorrows, you can move up and down a career at will, and you are not encouraged.
Rural areas and cities are not antagonistic. There is a big gap between rural areas in different regions, between the same township, Sichuan and mountainous areas, and between different families in the same village. But overall, urban civilization is superior to farming culture.
In a place where enterprises, rich people and talents cannot be retained, it is not easy for the poor to survive, but even more difficult to survive. If the poor want to get rich, the most basic thing is to find a job, and most of the jobs can be provided by enterprises, the rich and talents. There are few enterprises, few rich people and few talents in rural areas, so there are few jobs. Young people naturally give up their land and go to cities that can provide more jobs and higher salaries.
City people don't farm, what do city people eat? China is a net importer of grain, and it needs to import tens of billions of dollars of grain and meat products every year. If the international environment changes and the international import channel is interrupted, it will be extremely dangerous to national security. Therefore, the state has set a red line of 65.438+0.8 billion mu of cultivated land to ensure "safety on the tip of the tongue". With the progress of science and technology, the social division of labor is becoming more and more detailed. It is the general trend to liberate a large number of self-sufficient agricultural population, let professional agricultural technicians contract land and carry out scientific large-scale planting and breeding.
Do rural people support urban people or urban people support rural people? what do you think? Like and cast your opinion!