For this phenomenon, two Chinese medicine masters, Deng Tietao and Zhou Daihan, agreed that people with an open mind and noble character can live a long life. If you want to live a long life, you should follow the example of these masters, be complacent and indifferent, be frustrated and calm, and have a regular diet. Deng Tietao has just won the title of "Master of Traditional Chinese Medicine" jointly awarded by Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security, Ministry of Health and state administration of traditional chinese medicine, and 93-year-old Deng Tietao is the only person in Guangdong who has won this honor. Zhou Daihan, 68, is the chief professor of Guangzhou University of Traditional Chinese Medicine, one of the four earliest colleges of traditional Chinese medicine established in China, and the honorary president of Cancer Branch of Chinese Medicine Association. Two masters of traditional Chinese medicine recently accepted an exclusive interview with Yangcheng Evening News to talk about their longevity experience. Deng Tietao: Xiu De is the first choice for keeping in good health, and the psychological quality of people without morality can't last long. Yangcheng Evening News: Many deceased masters are very old. For example, Qi Gong was 93 years old, Ba Jin1kloc-0/year old, Qian Zhongshu was 88 years old, and Ma Yinchu1kloc-0/year old ... far exceeding the average life expectancy in China. How to analyze this phenomenon? Deng Tietao: Masters live long because they are broad-minded. They always think about the whole country, the whole nation and want to do great things. Therefore, they do not pay attention to personal gains and losses, and are particularly tolerant of suffering and setbacks. They don't haggle over every ounce, as economist Ma Yinchu said, "They are complacent and indifferent, frustrated and calm". As the saying goes, "fame and fortune miss a lifetime", many people who pursue fame and fortune excessively will be short-lived because of too little labor and too much sexual love. Yangcheng Evening News: Most of the growth experiences of these masters have experienced the New Democratic Revolution, War of Resistance against Japanese Aggression, the War of Liberation, and the famine in the period of economic difficulties ... It can be said that there are many disasters and difficulties, and there are not many opportunities for tonic the day after tomorrow. So, nutrition and living conditions are not the main determinants of longevity? Deng Tietao: Yes, mentality is an important factor in determining life span. These masters are all people who struggle for national interests and people's happiness. They don't pursue personal enjoyment, don't think hard about personal gains and losses, and don't deliberately calculate others. When the economic conditions are better in their later years, they pay attention to their personal diet and daily life-because they also need a healthy body to achieve the great cause of the country and the nation. For example, Ma Yinchu, who suffered hardships all his life, was wise and wrote: "Don't be humiliated, just watch Bloom fall in front of the court;" His psychological quality is excellent in the atmospheric couplet of going and not going, looking at the clouds outside the sky. Advocating more volunteer activities Yangcheng Evening News: Many new generations who grew up after the reform and opening up lack setbacks and hard education. How to hone these young people? Deng Tietao: We should advocate more volunteer activities, so that those who live well in cities can go to the countryside to help poor families, receive the education of working people, let them know how the bottom people live, cherish their present life, and don't be arrogant because they have some money and read some books. The feelings between me and the working people are also cultivated in this way. 195 1 year to participate in land reform. For two years, I, a Chinese medicine practitioner trained in a big city, went to Xinhui to live with farmers and gave birth to lice for two years. I know a couple who have only one pair of trousers and are afraid to go out to work during the day. Why are they so bitter? This is a question I often think about when I go to the countryside, and this is how my feelings are cultivated. Only by going to the countryside can we cultivate a materialistic outlook on life-liberating all mankind and finally liberating ourselves. Zhou Daihan: Longevity does not necessarily depend on eating good food every day. Longevity also has genetic factors. Yangcheng Evening News: Ji Xianlin and Ren, who died just the day before yesterday, were 98 and 93 years old respectively. What do they have in common in longevity? Zhou Daihan: Both masters have lofty character and ordinary mentality. They don't like things or grieve for themselves, so they can bear all kinds of hardships. The World Health Organization's definition of health includes that there should be no diseases in body and mind. If you are anxious all day, it is medically believed that such people are prone to endocrine disorders and the functions of various organs in the body will lose balance. Of course, longevity also has a genetic background. People who live long in their families also have a chance to live longer. Avoid unhealthy lifestyles Yangcheng Evening News: Many masters aged 80, 90 or even 100 have experienced the era of material scarcity. Why can't malnutrition affect their life span? Zhou Daihan: Actually, you don't have to eat good food every day, and you don't have to take supplements. I often tell patients to have a correct understanding of replenishing qi and blood in traditional Chinese medicine. Many of my cancer patients have excellent living conditions, and there are many nourishing and precious Chinese medicines at home, but it is harmful to supplement them too much. For example, ginseng "tonifies qi", but Chinese medicine believes that "excessive qi leads to fire". A patient used ginseng to stew duck to make up his body. So his anger rose, and his eyes could not see and his ears could not hear. Later, he used raw radish juice to relieve the tonic of ginseng. Another example is "enriching blood". Traditional Chinese medicine believes that "more blood leads to stagnation", and patients who blindly replenish blood will have blood vessel blockage, so qi and blood will not be replenished at once. Now that the nutritional conditions are good, many "rich diseases" caused by overnutrition have appeared: cardiovascular and cerebrovascular diseases, diabetes and cancer. These chronic non-communicable diseases are the main causes of death in China, most of which are related to lifestyle. Therefore, in order to live a long life, we must avoid unhealthy lifestyles. The above-mentioned masters did not turn life upside down day and night, but now many young people sleep during the day and become night owls at night, and their lives are disordered, so that many diseases that used to appear in the elderly appear in advance in young people, such as obesity and high blood pressure. There is no fixed pattern for health and longevity. Yangcheng Evening News: Ji Xianlin's regimen includes not deliberately controlling diet. He said he would eat everything. This is different from the so-called "healthy diet" advocated by many people now, that is, eat more fruits and vegetables and eat less seafood and animal offal. Zhou Daihan: Ji Xianlin is right. In fact, there is no fixed pattern for health and longevity, so you can't overeat so-called "healthy food". Now there is a new medical term abroad-"healthy food obsession syndrome", which means that some people are too obsessed with vitamins, don't eat meat, only eat vegetables and juice, and only eat tomatoes and carrots in vegetables, thinking that a healthy diet means eating coarse grains, not eating meat at all, and not eating animal viscera at all. In fact, taking animal viscera as an example, because it is rich in cholesterol, it is an essential nutrient for the brain. If the child's cholesterol intake is too low, the brain will be stunted; Low cholesterol in the elderly can lead to Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease. Therefore, like Ji Xianlin, eating everything and eating in a balanced way is the truly scientific way of eating. Yangcheng Evening News: You usually come into contact with a large number of cancer patients, especially advanced cancer. Do you think cancer patients have anything in common? Zhou Daihan: Now medical research has found that both breast cancer and depression are "* * * diseases", which are both caused by patients' abnormal mentality. This mentality also exists in other cancer patients, such as male prostate cancer. Some people go into shock before they get sick, and their psychology is too fragile, so the effect of treatment will not be good. Therefore, in the treatment, I try to know more about the patient's psychological state and do more psychological counseling. (Editor in Charge: Plateau) [Let me say two words]